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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 3:31 am 
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Having run through Taylor Factory Fridays series about finishing their T5 models, a part of it mentions about applying a type of pore filler which's called there, if I heard it right, as "paste" filler. And if I'm not missing anything, there's only one coat of this filler before being UV cured and finished. I'm curious what kind of this paste filler it is. Is it also applicable to the acoustic guitar? Only a coat applied is surprising.

Thanks for anyone's input.


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Old Growth Brazilian
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I assume it is something like this
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I've been using oil-based, paste wood pore filler for 30 years. Works in one coat. Tint it whatever color you want, except clear <g>. The water-based filler is good too but it dries a lot quicker than the oil-based so you have less wiping time.


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Hesh is referring to a finishing resin (probably Z-Poxy), not epoxy glue.


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Ask Taylor. I called them about a dye that thy use on maple, and they gave me complete info including the manufacturer, part#, and phone #.

AlA Peebels38859.6313310185


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[QUOTE=BarryDaniels] I've been using oil-based, paste wood pore filler for 30 years. Works in one coat. Tint it whatever color you want, except clear <g>. The water-based filler is good too but it dries a lot quicker than the oil-based so you have less wiping time.[/QUOTE]

Barry,

Can you recommend a brand and a source? Thanks.

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Hi I have seen a lot of mention of a product called Z-Poxy on this site. Its some sort of grain filler. Can you tell me where I would purchase this? Is this a clear filler? Does this have to be tinted to match the wood, or does it go on clear and stay clear? And how about sanding. Is it easy to work with and does it have a long open working time.      Thanks...Mike


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Mike, just go to the top of this screen and hit the search button. When prompted type in Z-poxy and select all forums and hit the search button. I just did it and there are just too many to list. Lots of info here, have fun.

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Buttzilla,

available at Hobby shops and LMI carries it as well now.
Very easy to work with in every way.

Mike
White Oak, Texas


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Thanks guys


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Hesh, do you wipe the epoxy with a card or with a piece of rubber cut from a shower squeegee? I ask because i saw a luthier named Dave Painter do it. Supposedly, it helps to spread the epoxy very evenly.


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Serge it is more about pushing the resin in to the pores than getting an even coat on the surface. Process for me is (excluding my new experimental process with the foam pad) is poar on a small amount and spread with a fake credit card at 45 deg to the grain. working small areas and pulling the excess to the next area to be woorked. When I am finished I have just s very very thin skim coat on top of the wood. I sand back to the wood 24 hrs later and if there is no need for more filling I make up a 40% Alcohol/ 60% Zpoxy mix and wipe on with a lint free cloth just to level the color of the wetted wood. This is a very very thin mix and is only applied enough to wet the wood not to build any real film thickness.


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John, I like the Behlen Pore-O-Pac paste wood pore filler which is available from Woodcraft. I usually get the natural color filler which is actually a tan color. Then I add UTC tints to make the filler a dark chocolate brown.


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Thanks for this clarification coach Michael, i sure would not have made the difference, your approach makes more sense in terms of wood prep schedule, Thanks!


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